Features:

  • SPECS: With a large 7-liter capacity this tumbler can clean up to 1,000 cases of .223 brass at a time
  • EASE OF USE: Features a maintenance-free drivetrain that eliminates the chances of needing to replace a belt and has a built-in timer in the base that can be set to run for up to 3 hours, shutting off automatically
  • VERSATILITY: This tumbler can effectively clean without the use of stainless steel media pins and can clean using a mixture of brass cleaning solution and water
  • QUIET: This tumbler features a dual-layer drum with noise dampening rubber lining for minimal noise while running
  • INCLUDES: This tumbler comes with 5 lb. of 304 Stainless Steel Media (enough for hundreds of washes) and a sample packet of Frankford Arsenal Brass Cleaning Solution
Great Machine

Absolutely a great product....works perfect, no leaking. I used to sonic clean and dry tumble....neither come even close to how clean wet tumbling with stainless steel pins gets the inside and the primer pockets clean. Getting the Frankford Arsenal transfer magnet for the pins is an absolute must! Just do yourself a favor and order it with the tumbler lol Forget the cleaning soap they sell you...use 1/2 teaspoon of original Dawn Ultra and a 9mm or .40 cal empty brass full of Lemi-shine you can get at Walmart. DO NOT USE MORE LEMI SHINE THAN THAT...it will turn the brass a rose color. This mix is the #1 mix in every reloading forum and on youtube. REALLY CRAPPY OF AMAZON TO LOWER THE PRICE 50 BUCKS TWO DAYS AFTER CHRISTMAS FROM THREE WEEKS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMAZON IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

Buy the FA system

I'm very happy with this system so far. Cleaned about 1k rounds. 2 capfuls of the FA Brass Cleaning solution, 1 if small batch (I just bought it and skipped the dawn/lemi shine battles), about 1 capful of dawn, and half of the SS pins, run 1 hour, easily cleans 50-500 cases. Increase pins, solution, and time to your preferred ocd level. I deprime all cases with the FA universal deprimer before tumbling. Lessons: if one case barely fits in another, or has a big difference between calibers, they will get stuck and be difficult to dislodge cases, bonus is they won't be clean. Buy the FA pick up magnet (wrap sides with gorilla tape to avoid it filling up with water), and wet/dry separator with square housing covers. The system (tumbler, SS pins, solution, Dawn, magnet, and spinning separator) works great together, stinks without one of them. Stainless Steel pins are extremely small, hard to see, and able to sneak in and toast your garbage disposal. Separator is a great way to avoid this problem. I dry cases on top of a towel with fan blowing over, move to get all dry. I spread out pins on old flexible plastic cutting boards if storing, and let the fan dry them too, otherwise just toss wet pins back in the tumbler for the next round.

DIRECTIONS !!!!!! AWESOME !! SHORT READ !

WHY !?!?!?! Here's why. Super easy. - One #10 coffee can full of your favorite brass. - One teaspoon of your good quality dish soap - 1/4 teaspoon of Lemishine (just buy one bottle, it may last forever) - 2 - 3 hours on timer. Drain, Rinse, Dry and Load I have been reloading since 1979, this is the coolest brass cleaner I have used. Your reloading dies may last forever, because your brass is so clean. Your finished product will be the best looking you have ever had. I load on Dillon presses, I have 4 of them. The Franklin Rotary Cleaner will clean brass fast enough to keep up with your reloading. I have cleaned several loads of brass since Christmas. The only advice I have for you is DO NOT USE MORE DISH SOAP OR LEMISHINE THAN LISTED ABOVE! It will discolor your brass.

I Like My Rebel 17, but The Capacity on this Unit is Outstanding.

I have owned a Rebel 17 tumbler for a few years and I like it very much. However, when I saw the Frankford Arsenal Platinum Series Rotary Tumbler 7L (FA 7L), with its advertised capacity and lower price I decided to bite the bullet (pun intended) and try this one too. The Rebel 17 and the FA 7L sit side by side on my shop bench. I have had the FA 7L since March of 2016 and while I do like both FA 7L and the Rebel 17, if I had to choose just one I would go with FA 7L. Do not get me wrong, I like the Rebel 17; I use it regularly, and the customer service for the Rebel 17 (at http://www.stainlesstumblingmedia.com) has been outstanding. However, the price point for the FA 7L (when I purchased the FA 7L it was on an Amazon “lighting Deal” for $150) and the larger capacity make FA 7L the FA 7L a better option. Here are the details: Delivery (not too good): The FA 7L was shipped in its retail box without an outer box. There was a packet of some blue cleaning solution (a liquid) that was taped to one end of the tumbler. This was impacted during shipping (as far as I can see that was a foregone conclusion as the packet had no protection and was right on the end of the tank) so the blue liquid leaked all over the box and tumbler. I was unimpressed and thought I was going to have to send the tumbler back. However, only the box was damaged and the tumbler cleaned up fine. Capacity: The new tumbler is larger than the Rebel 17. For my 9mm test the Rebel 17 cleaned 227 cases and the FA 7L cleaned 734 case. I am not sure if the FA 7L will handle 1,000 - 5.56 cases as advertised, but based on my testing with 9mm the FA 7L probably will. The Rebel 17 recommends running about two lbs of brass (approximate 230 - 9mm cases) with five lbs of stainless steel media. I believe the Rebel 17 has a 17 lb capacity. The drum for the Rebel 17 weighs 6.5 lbs (without the cover). For my first test the Rebel 17 I ran 227 deprimed and dirty 9mm cases. The total weight of the drum, with SS media, brass, water, detergent, etc. was 23 lbs (15.5 lbs net). For the FA 7L 9mm test I ran 734 deprimed cases with 5 lbs of SS media. The total weight of the drum, with SS media, brass, water, detergent, etc. was 25.5 lbs. Operation: The FA 7L has a timer switch (the only way the tumbler can be operated) with a maximum of three hours. This may be an issue as sometimes I let brass run longer than three hours. However, the Rebel 17 runs at about 32 RPM while the FA 7L runs at about 63 RPM, so perhaps the FA 7L will clean better in three hours. As the Rebel 17 runs at about 32 RPM it is “gentler” than the FA 7L. This may prove useful for nickel plated brass – I have not tested this yet, but I have worn nickel plating off brass by running it too long with the SS media. I ran the brass in the Rebel 17 for three hours and the brass was clean and shiny (primer pockets too). The Rebel 17 does not have a timer so I use a timer that I can program to shut the Rebel 17 off at a specific time. This is one advantage of the Rebel 17 – it can run for longer than 3 hours if desired. I ran the brass in the FA 7L for three hours (the maximum time for which the FA 7L timer can be set). The brass was clean and shiny (primer pockets too). I did note that some of the SS media got caught on the edges of the “windows/caps” on either end of the FA 7L, but I do not believe that this negatively affected the cleaning operation. For me the capacity of the FA 7L is key. Being able to run three times the amount of brass in the FA 7L compared to the Rebel 17 in the same time period is great. Plus for three times the amount of brass I can run in the Rebel 17, I only have to drain, rinse, separate SS media, etc. once for the brass run in the FA 7L. I still use the Rebel 17 regularly for small quantities, but the FA 7L capacity is a huge time saver.

It's awesome, but takes a bit more work.

This thing works fantastic. It cleans the outside, inside, and primer pockets very well. Like everything in life, getting better results usually requires that you put in a bit more effort. I cleaned some brass for a friend of mine, and he was ecstatic about how polished and new it looked. But after watching the process I went through post-tumble, he concluded that he'd never do "all that" just for cleaner brass. So if you're reading through these reviews on Amazon, whether this is your first tumbler, or you're making the switch from dry tumbling, you need to be real about what kind of reloader you are. If you are competing or training several times a week, shooting thousands of rounds each month, then you probably don't care to spend any MORE time loading than you already do. This method is going to add more time. If you are reloading for a hobby, as much as you are for the cost savings, then you probably don't mind spending a little more time for a nicer result. But you should be aware up front that separating the stainless steel media from the brass is a little more time consuming than with dry media. To speed this up a media transfer magnet helps, as does an ENCLOSED media separator. Having everything in water as you agitate it really helps the stainless steel media find it's way out of the brass and to the bottom of a bucket. The ENCLOSED (this is important) separator helps keep pins from bouncing out everywhere as you spin the crank, and keeps you from having to hold a 25lb to 30lb drum over your sink, shaking it till your spine is torqued. Drying takes more time. I typically transfer them to a large towel, then I grab the corners and pick the towel up with the brass hanging in it like a hammock. I do the motion as if I'm polishing a bowling ball for about 30 seconds or so. Then, I spread everything out on a table outside, allowing it to dry completely via sunlight. Also, you will have to inspect the towel for more media, as well as peek in every case before you try to cram a primer in it. Steel media pins can sometimes get lodged in the flash hole. I don't mean for this to sound like I'm complaining, I just really want everyone who spends the money on this tumbler to understand that it is going to take more work. I personally LOVE the results I'm getting. But if you agree with my friend, you might consider getting the Berry's Model 400 tumbler kit. It was the second choice on my list, and I think it's worth checking out. And honestly, if I owned a house instead of a condo, I'd probably have gone that route. Some other things to know before buying... Decapping is now a separate step done before tumbling. Otherwise, you're primer pockets won't be cleaned, which sort of defeats the purpose. Stainless media is typically $45 to $50 for 5lbs. This kit includes a 5lb bag of media. The media should last you a lifetime, assuming you don't lose half of it in your drain, yard, or somewhere else clever. Also, I'd pass on using the special cleaning solution sample they give you. I use a mixture of Dawn soap and Lemishine. The soap helps the media clean, and keeps the dirt from sticking back to the cases and media while you're pouring the dirty water off the top. The Lemishine helps clean, but mostly helps the brass dry quickly, and without spots. Be sure you don't add these to your drum until it's almost full of water. Otherwise, you'll be dealing with a TON of overflowing suds from the soap. And one last thing to know is that it's still pretty loud. I bought this thinking it would be a great way to keep from disturbing my neighbors with a vibratory dry tumbler. It's really not that much quieter, if it even is at all. The flat sides of the tumbler sound like a redundant stomping noise to my downstairs neighbor unless I run it on a shelf in my outside patio closet. No biggie. The motor unit is powerful, yet also noisy. Again, solved in my specific scenario by keeping it outside in a patio closet with the door shut. I really think the Berry's Model 400 tumbler is probably quieter. I hope at least some of this information is helpful, and I'll try to answer any questions left as comments. UPDATE: It's been almost a year since I purchased this tumbler. I've run thousands of cases through it and it's still going strong. I still love the results I'm getting, and I still stand behind my original statement that it takes a little more work post-tumble. Just thought it's good to know that it still runs great after a year of continual use.

Wow - until now I thought the corn media tumbled brass was clean...

I am surprised how clean the brass comes out, it looks as good as brand new store bought brass, or even better... I attached a few pics, all of LC range brass (the "before" ones are lubed and sized already) and I highly doubt that I would get brass that clean, even if it was tumbled for weeks in the old corn tumbler. For running this batch, I used: 5 lbs stainless steel pins 1 tablespoon of Blue Coral 107G car wash solution 2 teaspoon Lemi Shine I think they overstated the capacity slightly - 1000 brass .223 fit it, but it worked much better with about 500 for me (probably because the stainless steel pins move better?) When you get this, I highly recommend getting the media separator (and a bucket, as even though it is pictured with the bucket on Amazon, the bucket is NOT included). I also got the magnetic pic up thingie, which works, but a few earth magnets glued together would have achieved pretty much the same. One more tip - when you put the brass in this washer, having the primer removed will allow the brass to dry faster - I did one batch with the primer in and it took several days for them to dry out (wife refused to let me use the oven....). Bottom line - yes, I highly recommend it, probably does not shoot any better than dirty brass, but the perfectionist inside of me keeps yelling "yeah, yeah, yeah - this is great" :-)

You won't regret buying this!

This thing is awesome! After I ran my first range trip brass in this thing, I went back and did every bit of brass that I had already dry tumbled. I did not like the solution that comes with the tumbler, didn't do as good a job as a little lemi shine and dawn. I definitely suggest you de-prime before wet tumbling as it just saves a step. And probably the best solution for that is the Harvey De-primer. http://harveydeprimer.com/ I'm not affiliated with these guys and not making any money from them, but I used to de-prime on a single stage and that gets old quick. Then I found the Harvey de-primer and that thing is just sweet. After that you can just toss them in and let them run for an hour and a half and they are clean. When you're done, use a five gallon bucket to help separate the steel media and cases. If you put one of the screening caps on the tumbler container and then put it in the bottom of the bucket, fill the bucket with water until it's a couple inches over your brass that's in the tumbler container and then spin the container like a washing machine left and right and then life the container out of the water and shake a couple times also you'll get out 99.8% of the media. I did about 600 5.56 brass this way and only found 2 pieces of media after it was dried out. On straight walled cases I almost always got out 100% of the media with this technique.

Great little kit to start wet tumbling.

Strengths: Design, materials, all inclusive kit Weaknesses: None noted Recommendation: Highly recommended. This is an all inclusive kit that will get you wet tumbling in no time. Recommend you buy some Lemi Shine and Dawn Dish Soap if you don't already have some sitting around. You'll want to deprime your brass before hand and I recommend anRCBS Decap Die (.27-.45 Caliber Heavy Duty) or RCBS Decap Die (.22-.25 Cal). Your brass will come out looking like new, and in less time. You'll also want a Frankford Media Magnet for SS Media and a case/media separator if you don't have one. RCBS and Frankford are my recommendations. When the motor on this one dies, I'll replace it with the same exact one and have two tubs. Review: I was a corn cob vibratory tumbler guy until I looked into alternative measures and found out how poisonous the dust cloud from a vibratory tumbler was (seriously, I'm not an expert, look it up and try not to breathe it in). Wet tumbling gets the brass cleaner and in less time. Sure, there are a couple more steps, but it saves you the time of cleaning primer pockets. My recommended checklist: Ensure one side is tightly capped 1qt of decapped brass (of any caliber). 2qt max. Insert 5lbs of included SS media 3/4 of a 9mm brass filled with lemishine Fill with hot water to shoulder 1 squirt (approximately filling a 9mm brass) of dawn Secure other side and shake to look for leaks Set on base and set to 90minutes 60mins sometimes isn't enough, and 2+ hours never cleans it any more than 90 minutes in my experience. Try it out yourself and see what works.

Worth every penny!

I have been reloading for only a few months, but I have been preparing to start reloading for over a year. I initially bought a dry media tumbler and used it quite a bit. I could do about 300 rifle brass at maximum and 500-600 pistol brass at maximum. It would run for about 4 hours per load to get them pretty clean on the exterior. Then, I saw some used brass a friend of mine cleaned with one of these and it was shiny new. I really wanted my brass to look like that, so I took the plunge. Here are my pros: - The capacity for rifle brass is about 1000. The capacity for pistol brass is about 1,400 (key is the weight limit of 30 pounds including the water and the media). - The cleaning time is much shorter. A typical load of some pretty dirty brass from the range takes about an hour to run. Add the time to load the tank, rinse the brass, and separate the media, I am up to about an hour and 15 minutes. - I no longer have to hand clean the primer pockets. - 5 pounds of steel media comes as part of the package. - The stainless steel media is infinitely reusable as long as it is cared for (rinse and dry it before storing it). The dry media has a very limited number of uses. - Brass that sparkles as shiny as new (if not sometimes shinier). - The interior of the drum is sound insulated so it is much quieter than the dry tumbler. - The dry tumbling is dusty. Here are my cons: - Replacement steel media can be expensive, but as long as I maintain it as described above and don't lose much, this should not be much of an issue. - Adds a depriming step prior to cleaning. This can be good or bad depending on your view because I used to clean, deprime and resize all in one step. Now it is two separate steps. My solution is that I have a hand deprimer and do it while watching TV or other videos. In my book, the pros far outweigh the cons. The price I paid was ultimately well worth it. You will not go wrong buying this.

Process lots of brass in a fraction of the time!

First things first, this thing works great! It arrives fast, is packaged well, and comes with everything you need out of the box to start tumbling brass, all you have to do is add water and plug it in. The tumbler hold A LOT of brass, in the description is says it will hold 1,000 .223 brass but it seems like it holds more than that, I have not counted each piece of brass however I do fill it up to the brim. After watching others online and doing a bit of research I decided to go with this machine, due to the capacity, and the fact that it cleans just as good, if not better, than the competing tumblers, it just hold way more. I run 1,000+ .223 brass for around 2-3 hours with a couple dashes of Dawn and a pinch or two of Lemi Shine and they look practically brand new, sometimes the primer pocket is not 100% clean, but that can be solved by running it a bit longer. The machine is fairly quite, I run it on the bathroom floor and after closing the door you can still hear it in the next room but it's not overly loud, you can still watch tv, listen to the radio or talk on the phone in the next room with little notice of the noise. One of the big bonuses are the straining caps, they allow you to drain the dirty water with ease while keeping all the shell casings in the tumbler, the stainless steel media will come out, but you can catch that in a mesh strainer. There are a few draw backs, however I believe the pros highly outweigh the cons with this machine. One of the major draw backs for me, is it seems like I get a fair amount of pins (the stainless steel media) lodged inside the case, or the primer pocket. Some of these are no problem, a gentle tap and the pins will come free, but there is a percentage (seem to be about 50+ cases per batch) that will get a pin to turn sideways inside the case and get lodged in there, you can dislodge the pin with something thin enough to fit in the case mouth, but it is time consuming to look into each case mouth to make sure all the media is out. This is a bonus to dry tumbling, you can spin the media out and it's cheap to replace if some goes flying everywhere, and almost never gets lodged inside the casing, as to where the stainless steel media is expensive to replace. IT does seem easier to separate the pins from the casings if you let the casings dry before you separate them, but this can slow down production if you are trying to run multiple batches back to back. Perhaps if the stainless steel pins were a bit shorter this would solve the problem. All in all I am highly satisfied with this product and would recommend it to someone else that is interested in reloading.

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